While Loki has been hiding in the house during the roof project, Pixel has been exploring. Here’s her caught in action.
Let’s start with an update on our project’s timeline because our timing has increased slightly.
Here is where we left off last week with the carport structure upgraded.
This week, Jim added the new 2×10″ fascia to the full parameter. One early decision we made was to upgrade all the fascia from 1×10″ to 2×10″. It’s the one piece of the roof that will be visible so we felt it was an important splurge. And yes before someone asks, we are saving as much wood as we can for other projects.
Jim hung the fascia slightly lower than the original which gives it this nice clean line compared to how the fascia and soffit boards used to meet.
He also began to work on our back porch issues. Our back overhang has always been an eyesore. It leaks water during the rainy season and sags miserably.
We’ve always wondered why it sags so badly and it was great to finally get the answer. This part of the overhang (different from all the rest on the house) was built to collect water and have it drain down one drain pipe. The rafters were an inch shorter (2×6″ instead of 2×7″) than the rest on the house which allowed the water to collect here. I am certainly not an expert on drainage, but what I do know is overtime this section of the roof became a sponge because the concept didn’t work.
On top of that, the original beam that ran the length of the overhang, was not secured correctly to our master bedroom wall (see above). Instead of sitting the beam on top of the studs in the wall, it was just secured to the plywood. Overtime, because of both of these decisions, the overhang began to sag even more. When Jim removed it, the middle was 4″ lower than the sides.
To fix the overhang, Jim replaced the beam that ran the length of the porch. He sat it (correctly) on the studs in the master bedroom wall and built up the support on the opposite side as well. Next week, he will replace the rafters as well.
Over the weekend, I finally pruned back our lemon and kumquat trees to give the guys a little more room to work as well.
It’s been great to see the fascia go up. I am so happy we went with the 2×10″s instead of the 1×10″s that were originally used on the house. These thicker boards give such a nice finished look to our roofline.
And I can’t talk enough about how different the back porch looks. Straightening it out just has changed the feel of the back porch. I know that sounds dramatic, but its like someone with bad posture compared to someone standing straight. It completely changes the porch’s demeanor.
Our roof removal has been scheduled for Monday, October 13th which is a week later than we had hoped for. There was a bit of negotiating that had to happen on the price before we could schedule, but we are happy with the final outcome even if it’s a little later than expected.
Next week, the back porch and fascia will be finished up so we are all ready to go with the removal.
Hello and welcome to Project Roof! I cannot begin to tell you how excited we are to get this project started. It’s been so long in the planning.
The first construction project was removing a poorly designed extension to our carport. This part is not original to the house and overtime begun to sag at the seam. We decided to remove it to cut down on our roof square footage and to restore the carport to its original length. Eventually we plan on making it into a proper garage, but that’s something we will tackle later on. For the present, we wanted Jim our carpenter, to just remove the extension, repair the overhang structure, any major dry-rot he found and add new posts to the front that were actually cemented securely into the driveway.
Here’s the side view so you can see the full extension better. Our best guess is that the old owner may have had a Cadillac to want the carport extended? Who really knows…
From the opposite side, the sagging and dry-rot along the seam is pretty obvious. You can see a gap along the side where the boards have rotted and warped.
Jim removed the extension and fascia along the entire roof line. This allowed him to get a good look at what was holding up our carport and overhangs. He found that our carport structure was pretty flimsy especially along the front and side. The photo above shows the replacement wood he added along the front of the carport.
Here’s a bad photo of the dry-rot boards. Jim told me he also found a giant rats nest which he very nicely got rid of without showing us. All the damaged boards were replaced and Jim added extra support that was missing from the structure especially along the side.
He also dug and cemented new posts for the front of the carport. These guys won’t budge which is a good thing. The last set was not secured at the base and I’ve always been worried I might nudge them with the car.
At the end of the week, the carport structure was done. Doesn’t the roof line look better? I am so happy with it.
I thought the first week went really well. We not only got the carport part moving along, but we signed our roofing contract.
Jim was able to a take a look at the roof deck when he pulled off the fascia. He thinks that most of the deck (the layer of wood sitting on the rafters) will need to be replaced. From what he could see, there was a lot of mold. To combat this in the future, we plan on adding vents to the underside all the overhangs to prevent moisture buildup.
Our biggest decision this week was who would subcontract our the roof removal – Jim or the roofing company. In the end, it made more sense to have Jim do it so he could begin working on the dry-rot. Unfortunately since Sacramento got a little rain this week all the roof removal companies are booked up for the next couple weeks. A little rain apparently bring roof hysteria in these parts. We are still waiting to find out when we can schedule the removal, but are hoping it will be next week.
And finally, the cats. Loki has spent a large chunk of the week in our clothes closets hiding from Jim. He seems to be okay in the evenings, but I am still going to call the vet to see what I can do for him when there is a lot more activity on the roof. Pixel, of course, is absolutely fine with the work so far.
Project Roof is on!! Can you believe it? The much-anticipated new roof is coming!
Contracts have been signed and our loan will been funded this week so we are legitimately ready for this. We have hired a carpenter, electrician, plumber and a roof company so far on this job. We still need to find someone to do the insulation or decide to do it ourselves.
As I have reported before, our flat roof is more complicated than your average sloped roof because all of our utilities run on top of it. Plus, our ceiling is tongue-and-grove so we have no access to the interior of it. So, we are taking this opportunity to update all our existing utilities (electrical, plumbing and insulation) from the top down.
Instead of writing up a tutorial type post for this project, I am going to give weekly updates talking about the scope of the work and what assumptions/goals we’ve made for each part of the project. Then I’ll report on how the project moves forward, what pitfalls and surprises we find and our general thoughts on how it is going.
Project Roof is going to be broken into four major parts so we can address all of our issues. The timeline is estimated based on what we can assume with the scope of work. We have scheduled our carpenter for the next two weeks to start and are working on scheduling the rest of our vendors right now.
I am really excited to get moving on the roof. I am sick of looking at moldy rafters and worrying about leaks.
I am worried about all the moving pieces and scheduling the contractors correctly. I don’t want to have an open roof longer than we need.
I am excited to work on projects we have put on hold until the roof got fixed. Our prison bath has been on hold for over a year once we realized the ceiling had issues.
I’m also worried about the amount of money we are spending on the roof, but know we’ve done all the research necessary. Plus, we are getting so much done in this project that will greatly improve our home.
Regardless of my feelings, I am so ready for this. Let’s do it!
Next week, I go over the first part of the project and what progress has been made. Yahoo!
Last Monday morning, I took some lovely photos on my morning walk. We had our first freezing temperatures over the weekend and the morning stillness was incredibly beautiful.
I had a nice meditative walk before the day truly started. Monday was the first day back at work for me after a restful two-week vacation. We also were expecting Nate’s dad to arrive for a weeks stay later that day.
It’s funny to look at these now because only a couple of hours later all hell broke loose. Literally five minutes after arriving at the office, I got a phone call from our across-the-street neighbors. They had seen what looked like a sprinkler going off on our roof and were worried it might be a busted pipe.
I told them where the water main was and got back in my car to drive home. By the time I arrived, our super-amazing neighbors Lee and Carol, had turned off the water and inspected the cause. I joined them up on the roof. Not only did we have a busted water pipe, but most of our pipe insulation had deteriorated or was missing. This was probably the root of our pipe problem. It’s hard to have a frozen pipe when they are nice and cozy in foam insulation.
As we inspected the roof, the water from the sprinkler was beginning to freeze. Lee and Carol offered to sweep off the water while I called reinforcements. The pipe split was too much for me to take care of so I googled plumbers, read a few reviews and called my leading candidate.
Glenn arrive a few hours later to fix the pipe. He got to work on the busted section and then called down for me to turn on the water to check the water pressure.
Good thing we did because what we thought was one split turned into three. Each break is slightly smaller than the last and it was only when we tested the water pressure Glenn found them. Once all three breaks were repaired, Glenn left and I ran to the store for pipe insulation.
The first store I went to was sold out, so I sat in the parking lot and called six more stores before I found the pipe insulation in stock. I bought 72 feet of tubular pipe insulation and a big roll of plumbers tape.
By this time, Nate and his dad has arrive at home. So the three of us climbed up on the roof to remove the old insulation and install the new stuff.
After we removed the old insulation, we worked as a team to get everything on before the sun set. Bill laid out the new material, I installed it and Nate helped me tape it up.
The insulation I bought was pre-slit, self-sealing rubber in 6 feet lengths. This particular product was the only one available for my 1 inch pipes. This turned out to be a blessing in disguise, because I would have probably bought the less expensive option if I had a choice. With our limited daylight left, I was glad to have the self-sealing feature. It made the install much quicker. I added tape every few feet and around any fittings for extra protection. The whole process took about an hour to do.
Later that night, I left a trickle of water running through our kitchen sink all night to prevent any potential freezing. To be honest even with the extra precautions, I was a little nervous all night long. I may even had done a few ceiling checks at any creak I heard in the house that night. But all was well and since then (knock on wood) we’ve been good. I am very thankful we got this fixed so quickly and that our amazing neighbors saw the “sprinkler” when they did. This post would be a lot different if that water had continued to run.
So yeah, 2014 is definitely going to be the year we get this roof and all the plumbing, electrical and god-know-what-else-is-up-there fixed. We’ve been lucky so far and I don’t want to push it.